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Batting Around: Do Astros Deserve ‘Dynasty’ Label After Second World Series Title?

Batting Around: Do Astros Deserve ‘Dynasty’ Label After Second World Series Title?

Throughout the offseason, CBS Sports MLB experts will be bringing you a weekly Batting Around roundtable that will break down just about anything. Breaking news, historical question, thoughts on the future of baseball, everything. Last time we talked about surprise teams in the postseason. This time we’re going to tackle it Astros‘ success after winning their second title in franchise history Saturday night, defeating the Phillies in six games.

Houston’s win brings us to our Batting Around question…

Are the Astros a dynasty?

Matt Snyder: Absolutely not. End of discussion.

OK, I should say more. There have been four different champions between just two titles. If they win next year, we can talk about it, but two in six years is not dynasty material and would be too liberal a way to apply the label. They’re an American League dynasty, winning the league four out of six times and reaching the league finals all six years, but that’s not the point. There are no conferences, divisions or league dynasties in sports.

RJ Anderson: For me it’s not because of the way the term “dynasty” is usually used. I think we need a new word to denote a team one step below, or, “a really good and consistent team with several titles”. I agree that two titles in six years is not what you think of when you think of the word “dynasty”. Six consecutive trips to the LCS circuit is impressive, however, and should be celebrated. With constant postseason expansion, it’s less likely that we’ll see teams win three or four more championships in short order. So, in the end, I think we just need a new term to use for these Astros, or the Dodgers — that, or, maybe, we just need to redefine what exactly constitutes a dynasty.

Matt: I agree with RJ that we could come up with another term to separate the teams that are really great over long periods of time from the teams that only have one title. As for what makes a dynasty, the one we’ve seen in baseball in my lifetime is Yankees. They won four titles in five years. Many people like to use the phrase “when you see it, you know it.” You knew it was a dynasty.

Mike Axisa: No. Come on. The Astros are 2-2 in the World Series during this series and 13-13 in World Series games. Two titles in six years are not enough – those are 2006 and 2011 Cardinals dynasty? — and you don’t get credit for going to the World Series and getting lost. If the Astros win the World Series next season, we can take the dynasty question a little more seriously. So far, this is a great ride from a great team. We can enjoy it without forcing a dynasty discussion.

Dayne Perry: I’m not quite sure if there is a consensus on what dynasty means MLB, but two titles in six years does not make a dynasty. I’m not even sure the 2017 title, because it was, you know, 2017, is relevant to whether the 2022 team will one day be part of a dynasty. No, here is the simple answer.

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